16-008
Service Bulletin Details
Public Details for: 16-008
Service bulletin - transmission function improvements: sensation of surge while braking, slow downshift response at low engine speeds, and other listed symptoms. American honda has made several shift quality improvements in the 2016 pilot.
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Models from 2016
2016 HONDA PILOT |
Service Bulletin 16-008 January 28, 2016 03122 Version 1 Transmission Function Improvements: Sensation of Surge While Braking, Slow Downshift Response at Low Engine Speeds, and Other Listed Symptoms AFFECTED VEHICLES Year Model 2016 Pilot 2016 Pilot Trim 2WD with 9-Speed A/T AWD with 9-Speed A/T VIN Range 5FNYF5...GB000001 thru 5FNYF5...GB024149 5FNYF6...GB000001 thru 5FNYF6...GB050323 BACKGROUND American Honda has made several shift quality improvements in the 2016 Pilot. SYMPTOM There is a sensation of acceleration while coasting down a hill. There is a sensation of a surge while braking. The transmission feels like it stays in the gear too long. During slight acceleration, there is a surge or hesitation from a stop. The transmission feels rough at low speeds. UPDATE Engine mapping has been changed to better manage 8-7 and 5-4 downshifts with the throttle closed. Transmission mapping on the 5-4-3 downshift when accelerating at low engine speeds was changed to a 5-3 downshift to provide a quicker acceleration response. Low-speed acceleration feel in 1-3 gears has been improved. There is a hesitation from a stop (with idle stop canceled). There is poor acceleration or bogging noise at slow engine speeds. Torque converter lock up strategy has been improved for low-speed drivability (parking lot speeds). CORRECTIVE ACTION Update both the PCM and the TCM software. Clear all DTCs created during both updates and do the idle learn procedure. NOTE: Failure to update both the PCM and the TCM software at the same time will result in poor shift quality and a comeback. This software update will change the way the transmission shifts. After the update it may take up to 30 miles for the transmission to adapt to the customer’s driving habits. CUSTOMER INFORMATION: The information in this bulletin is intended for use only by skilled technicians who have the proper tools, equipment, and training to correctly and safely maintain your vehicle. These procedures should not be attempted by “do-it-yourselfers,” and you should not assume this bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle has the condition described. To determine whether this information applies, contact an authorized Honda automobile dealer. © 2016 American Honda Motor Co., Inc. – All Rights Reserved Page 1 of 2 WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION The normal warranty applies. Operation Number Description Flat Rate Time Defect Code Symptom Code Template ID Failed Part Number 1255D7 Update the PCM and the TCM software. Do the idle learn procedure. 0.5 hr 03214 03217 16-008A 37820-RLV-A63 Skill Level: Repair Technician SOFTWARE INFORMATION NOTE: Unnecessary or incorrect repairs resulting from a failure to update the HDS or MVCI are not covered under warranty. MVCI Control Module (CM) Update: Application Version: 3.01.50 or later Database update: 11-Jan-2016 or later HDS Software Version: 3.017.012 or later Before beginning the update, make sure that both the HDS and the MVCI are updated as listed above. Do only the update listed in this service bulletin. Check that the MVCI indicates the applicable program ID listed below (or a later program ID) as the Available Update when the update begins. If the MVCI displays This vehicle does not need an update at this time during the update, the software for this service bulletin is already installed. For more information about updating the HDS, the MVCI, and vehicle systems, refer to Service Bulletin 01-023, Updating Control Units/Modules. PCM Trim 2WD with 9-Speed A/T AWD with 9-Speed A/T Program ID (or later) LVA640 LVA840 Program P/N (or later) 37805-RLV-A640 37805-RLV-A840 TCM Trim 2WD with 9-Speed A/T AWD with 9-Speed A/T Program ID (or later) EYA050 EZA060 Program P/N (or later) 28101-5EY-A050 28101-5EZ-A060 REPAIR PROCEDURE 1. Update the TCM and the PCM software. Refer to Service Bulletin 01-023, Updating Control Units/Modules. 2. Do the idle learn procedure. Refer to the service information. END Page 2 of 2