IS19_908E
Service Bulletin Details
Public Details for: IS19_908E
Bosch to delco remy alternator installation, h3-45 revision : e, updated electrical schematic. Added instructions for h series ghg17 engine variant.
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Instruction Sheet IS-19908E BOSCH TO DELCO REMY ALTERNATOR INSTALLATION, H3-45 From D-2364 up to J-0184 REVISION : E Updated electrical schematic. Added instructions for H series GHG17 engine variant. 05-27-2019 MATERIAL Order Main Kit IS19908, which contains Part No. Description Qty 0610086 Alternator Mechanical Kit, Right 1 0610089 Adaptation Kit, Right, H3-45 1 IS-19908 Instruction Sheet 1 FI-19908 Feuille d’instructions 1 0610086 Alternator Mechanical Kit, Right Part No. Description Qty 560720 Alternator Remy 55SI 24V-250A Pad Mount 1 069892 Pulley 8PK, 83 DOB 1 069894 Bracket, Alternator Remy 1 506065 Belt Poly V 8PK1435 EPDM QT+Aramide 2 5001308 SCREW CAP HEXF N500 M10-1.5X40 G10.9 4 5002091 SCREW CAP HEXF N500 M10-1.5X120 G10.9 4 5001137 WASHER FL SS .203X.438X.06 (M5,#10) 2 5001180 NUT HEX NYRT SS 10-24 2 500411 WASHER FL SS .260X.697X.05 (M6,1/4) 1 5001341 WASHER FL SS 8.4X17X1.6 (M8,5/16) 1 500685 NUT HEX NYRT 5/16-18 SS 1 Writer: FLIS-19908E Page 2 / 26 0610089 Adaptation Kit, Right, H345 Part No. Description Qty 1 450580 MODIFIED BRACE, AC COMPRESSOR 5000360 STUD, M10-1.5X52 N500 5001834 WASHER BEL SPR 10.5X23X2.5 N500 1 5001799 SCREW CAP HEXF M10-1.5x70 G10.9 N500 2 5001930 NUT HEXF NYRT M10-1.5 N500 G10.9 1 N55439-02 RING TERMINAL 5MM / 16-14 / DURASEAL 3 N33509-06 Shrink tubing 1 12” 0610052 Power cable RH alternator H345 1 0610034 Ground cable RH alternator 1 NOTE Material can be obtained through regular channels. Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 3 / 26 TOOLS 680888 CLUTCH EXTRACTOR METRIC OPEN END WRENCH SET RATCHET, SOCKET, HEX BIT SET – METRIC LAPTOP W/ RS232 SERIAL ADAPTER & 066009 1 CONNECTION CABLE TORQUE WRENCH SOFT FACED HAMMER 1 / 8 OPEN END WRENCH BELT TENSION GAUGE ½ SQUARE DRIVE BREAKER BAR VOLTMETER / MULTIMETER CUTTING PLIERS 15/16” THIN CROWFOOT WALL ADAPTER. 5 1 VPG software or a MUX update package may be required on some vehicles. Contact your Prevost customer service manager for details. Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 4 / 26 PROCEDURE DANGER Park vehicle safely, apply parking brake, stop engine. Prior to working on the vehicle, set the ignition switch to the OFF position and trip the main circuit breakers equipped with a trip button. On Commuter type vehicles, set the battery master switch (master cut-out) to the OFF position. Apply vehicle lockout procedures according to local policies. Table of contents OVERVIEW ............................................................................................................................................................. 4 ELECTRICAL SCHEMATICS ....................................................................................................................................... 5 BOSCH ALTERNATORS REMOVAL, RIGHT HAND SIDE ............................................................................................. 6 RIGHT HAND ALTERNATOR INSTALLATION .......................................................................................................... 11 RIGHT HAND ALTERNATOR INSTALLATION (CONTINUED) .................................................................................... 13 RIGHT HAND ALTERNATOR CONNECTIONS .......................................................................................................... 17 ALTMGM PARAMETER CHANGE........................................................................................................................... 22 FUNCTIONAL TESTING.......................................................................................................................................... 22 APPENDIX A – LTD WIRE GUIDELINES .................................................................................................................. 24 LABOR REFERENCE TABLE .................................................................................................................................... 26 OVERVIEW For vehicles with PRIME battery management, a parameter value must be changed in the vehicle’s multiplex system. This requires a laptop with the proper serial cable and software. See TOOLS. Make an appointment with your nearest Prevost service center. If you choose to perform the procedure yourself, contact your Prevost customer support manager before starting. The procedure involves removing the existing Bosch alternators, their corresponding brackets and harnesses and replacing them with a Delco Remy 55SI alternator. The alternators require new brackets and harnesses. First time users should read the procedure before starting work on a vehicle. Best viewed in color. Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 5 / 26 ELECTRICAL SCHEMATICS FIGURE 1: ALTERNATOR CONNECTIONS Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 6 / 26 BOSCH ALTERNATORS REMOVAL, RIGHT HAND SIDE 1. Loosen bolt A on A/C belt tensioner. 2. Unscrew B. 3. Remove the mechanical tensioner assembly. 4. Remove the A/C compressor drive belts (2 side-by-side belts). Note: Keep hardware for reuse in next steps FIGURE 2 450580 BRACE PRE-ASSEMBLY 5. Install stud 5000360 with Red Loctite 271 on new modified compressor brace 450580. 6. Install it so it exceeds by 25mm. Place 5001834 Belleville washer and hand thread 5001930 flange nut. FIGURE 3 7. Remove the LANG electromagnetic clutch assembly. FIGURE 4 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 7 / 26 8. Hold the rotor with the 1 5/8 wrench. Loosen and remove the M12 rotor mounting screw. REMOVING SCREW THE M12 FIGURE 5 For the next step, use rotor extractor tool #680888. 9. Screw the extractor tool into the straining washer only until the rotor pops off the tapered shaft. Then work the rotor off the shaft by hand with help from soft faced mallet as needed. PULL OFF THE ROTOR WITH TOOL #680888 (shown) TAKE OFF THE ROTOR FIGURE 6 10. Loosen the fastening screws (4x) of the coil and pull the coil off the retainer. FIGURE 7 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 8 / 26 11. Remove the support bracket mounting screws on the engine. Keep screws for reuse. See note below. 12. Remove the belt tensioner bolt. Reserve for re-use. 13. Remove and discard the alternator drive belt. FIGURE 8 Note 2013 to 2015 vehicles equipped with a welded brace variant use two 55mm long screws to secure the tensioner support casting to the engine. Discard the 55mm screws, keep the other screw. FIGURE 9: WELDED BRACE VARIANT (2013-2015) 14. Unscrew and remove two socket cap screws. 15. Discard the reinforcement bracket. 16. Keep hardware for re-use. FIGURE 10 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 9 / 26 17. Remove compressor mounting bolts and reserve. Move compressor slightly aside to provide additional working space. FIGURE 11 WARNING The alternator is connected to the batteries through master relay R1. If the ignition switch is in the OFF position and the battery master switch (master cut-out) is set to the OFF position, there should not be electrical power to the alternator terminals. However, a faulty master relay R1 could eventually leave the battery power circuit closed, thus electrical power would be present at the alternator terminals. Using a multimeter, probe the alternator B1+ terminal and the ground terminal. Make sure that the voltage reading is 0 volt before disconnecting the alternator cables. 18. Disconnect the Power, Jumper, Control Harness and Ground cables from the alternators. Discard ground cable. FIGURE 12 A: (+) POWER CABLE B: (+) JUMPER CABLE C: CONTROL HARNESS D: GROUND CABLE Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 10 / 26 19. Remove the existing alternators. To do so, unscrew the four (4) mounting bolts identified on the figure. Discard bolts and alternators. 20. Also remove the idler at the bottom. Discard idler and hardware. FIGURE 13 21. Remove the alternator support bolted on the engine. Discard support and bolts. FIGURE 14 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 11 / 26 RIGHT HAND ALTERNATOR INSTALLATION 22. Installing the alternator pulley. Place 560720 alternator flat on a bench with the shaft horizontal. Required tools: • • 15/16” crowfoot adapter 8mm hex bit Clean shaft and pulley with brake cleaner. Slide pulley 069892 on shaft by hand. Hand thread nut on shaft until snug. Using 15/16”adapter and 8mm hex bit to block shaft rotation, tighten to 70-80 lb-ft. Apply torque seal Never use power tools to install pulley and nut. FIGURE 15 Note: Do not apply any pressure to end of the shaft. Internal damage may occur if the shaft is pushed back and turned. 23. Install bracket 069894 on engine with four (4) 5001308 M10x40 bolts. Apply blue Loctite 243 Tighten to 35 lb-ft. Apply torque seal. FIGURE 16 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 12 / 26 24. Install alternator on engine with four (4) 5002091 M10x120 bolts. Apply blue Loctite 680038 Tighten to 48 lb-ft Apply torque seal. FIGURE 17 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 13 / 26 RIGHT HAND ALTERNATOR INSTALLATION (continued) 25. Re-install compressor mounting bolts by hand. Do not tighten yet. FIGURE 18 26. Install new compressor brace support 450580. Assemble with blue Loctite 243. Follow tightening sequence C-D-E. Install hardware by hand. Then tighten. Tighten C to 22 lb-ft Tighten D to 43 lb-ft, (use two 5001799 M10 70mm screws) Apply torque seal. FIGURE 19 27. Screws E, choose below Cylindrical head screw: Tighten 40 lb-ft (use blue Loctite 243) OR Button head screw: Tighten 32 lb-ft (use blue Loctite 243) Apply torque seal. Writer: FL FIGURE 20 IS-19908E Page 14 / 26 28. Tighten compressor base mounting bolts to 82 lb-ft Apply torque seal. FIGURE 21 29. Install the alternator belt tensioner with hardware reserved earlier. Tighten to 48 lb-ft. (use blue Loctite 243) Apply torque seal FIGURE 22 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 15 / 26 30. Install alternator belt 506065. To do so, rotate the automatic belt tensioner using a ½ square drive breaker bar. Keep the spare 506065 belt in the vehicle. FIGURE 23 31. Install A/C clutch coil. Use blue Loctite 243 Tighten to 22lb-ft Apply torque seal FIGURE 24 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 16 / 26 32. Mount the rotor on the shaft end. The flange and the shaft end of the compressor must be free from dirt. Apply high temperature approved assembly grease on the shaft end for easy dismounting of the clutch. Lang recommends the use of Molykote G-rapid-plus or Molykote P 40. 33. Carefully mount the rotor on the shaft end by hand. Never use a hammer for pressing the rotor on. Align the key on the compressor shaft with the keyway on the pulley bore. To avoid damaging the bore of the rotor, feel the engagement of the key in the keyway and slip the rotor on the shaft end of the compressor till reaching the stop. The Woodruff key on the shaft end and the groove in the location hole of the rotor must be flush. FIGURE 25 34. Fasten the rotor to the shaft end using the M12 screw and by holding-up with a wrench on the rotor. 35. Turn rotor by hand and pay attention to the free run and the generation of noises. In case of grinding or similar noises, dismount the clutch and check installation. Use blue loctite 243 on threads Tighten to 60lb-ft Apply torque seal FIGURE 26 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 17 / 26 36. Re-install A/C belt tensioner and belt. A belt strand tension gauge is needed. Belt tension should be within the following range: • 90-100 lbs new belts (mean of 2 belt values) • 75-85 lbs used belts (mean of 2 belt values) 37. Apply blue Loctite 243 on B threads and then hand-tighten B. Adjust belt tension using bolt A. Use the jam nut at the base of bolt A to keep proper tension adjustment. Note: Once thread locker is applied, do not wait too long before applying final torque. When proper tension is achieved, tighten B to 43 lbf-ft. (58 N-m). FIGURE 27 Apply torque seal RIGHT HAND ALTERNATOR CONNECTIONS 38. Open the Bosch alternator connectors by rotating the metal lock and prying open the plastic cap. FIGURE 28 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 18 / 26 39. On the upper alternator connector, cut the white wire at position 2. Crimp ring terminal N55439-02. Seal connection by melting shrink Tag and identify “25A1”. 40. Cut the other two red wires at positions 3 and 4. Seal with N55439-01 shrink tube. 41. On the lower alternator connector, cut the white wire at position 2. Crimp ring terminal N55439-02. Seal connection by melting shrink Tag and identify “25A2”. 42. Cut red wire at position 3. Crimp ring terminal N55439-02. Seal connection by melting shrink Tag and identify “24ALT”. 43. Cut and seal the wire at position 4 with N55439-01 shrink tube. FIGURE 29 44. Connect ring terminals 25A1 and 25A2 (on Indicator, “I”; 24Alt on Sense, “S”. Use 5001180 10-24 Nylon lock nut and 5001137 washer. 45. Tighten to the following torque values: Sense: 25-45 lb-in (3.0 5.0 N-m) Indicator: 25-45 lb-in (3.0 5.0 N-m) Note: After completing tests, Apply color guard 684013 on all connections. FIGURE 30 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 19 / 26 46. Install ground alternator. cable 0610034 on Pre-bend the cable before attempting to install. Use the screw and lock washer supplied with alternator. Add 500411 SS Washer. Tighten to 50-60 lb-in (5.6-6.8 N-m) 47. Connect ground cable to the engine. Tighten to 240 lb-in. FIGURE 31 Note: After completing tests, Apply color guard 684013 on all connections. FIGURE 32 For all X series vehicles and H series only up to H-3734, we will reuse the vehicle’s existing power cable. The cable is too short to connect to the new alternator as-is, perform steps below to get the additional length. 48. Remove cable ties up to the rear junction box cable trough. 49. Take the required extra length in the area circled in figure below. Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 20 / 26 FIGURE 33 TYPICAL CABLE TIE ARRANGEMENT AND CABLE ROUTING (X SERIES GHG14 VARIANT SHOWN) 50. Secure cable with cable ties following the same path. Take care to clear the A/C pressure transducer located in this area. NOTE: The cable ties must be rated to withstand the temperature of the engine compartment. Use the cable ties specified in the shop supplies list of this bulletin. Special instructions for H series from H-3735 up to J-0184, only. 51. Remove existing power cable. Route power cable 0610052 supplied with kit 0610089 from the main power compartment towards the engine. 52. Dismantle the former cable progressively. Use the same routing, cable supports and mounting points for the new power cable. FIGURE 34: FROM H-3735 UP TO J-0184, ONLY Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 21 / 26 Special instructions for H series from H-3735 up to J-0184, only. 53. In main power compartment, connect new cable to junction block in same location as previous cable. Tighten to 96 lb-in Apply torque seal. FIGURE 35: FROM H-3735 UP TO J-0184, ONLY 54. Install power cable on alternator. See NOTE below Use 500685 Nylon lock nut and 5001341 SS Washer. Tighten to 80-125 lb-in (9.0-14.0 N-m) FIGURE 36 Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 22 / 26 NOTE on positive stud : Early versions of the alternator have a shorter positive stud. Nut 500685 does not thread fully on the shorter stud to allow the locking nylon lock to grip on the threads. In this situation, use the nut and lock washer provided with the alternator. Tighten to: 80-125 lb-in (9.0-14.0 N-m). FIGURE 37: HARDWARE TO USE WITH EARLY VERSIONS 55. Secure control harness and power cable together with double loop cable ties as shown in images below. 56. If the red LTD wire was disturbed by dismantling of the Bosh wiring, secure it using the recommendations outlined in Appendix A “LTD wire guidelines”. FIGURE 38 ALTMGM PARAMETER CHANGE Contact your Prevost Customer support manager if your require assistance for this step. Multiplex parameter ALTMGM value must be No. FUNCTIONAL TESTING Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 23 / 26 57. Reset main circuit breakers if applicable. Set the battery master switch (master cut-out) to the ON position and start the engine. Make sure that the charging system is working normally. On the instruments cluster, the alternator telltale Writer: FL illuminates if the alternators are not charging. IS-19908E Page 24 / 26 APPENDIX A – LTD WIRE GUIDELINES IMPORTANT: It the LTD wire is disturbed; the following guidelines must be followed to secure it properly. NOTE Always use double loop cable ties to secure LTD. LTD must be tied alone, with no other cables in the loop. NOT ALLOWED CORRECT Possible contact or rubbing against screws, edges, etc. LTD must be routed clear of screws, sharp edges, etc. NOT ALLOWED CORRECT Rubbing or possible rubbing against abrasive surfaces LTD must be secured with double loop cable ties. Distance between cable ties must not exceed 4 inches (100mm) max NOT ALLOWED LTD touching cut cable tie Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 25 / 26 NOT ALLOWED LTD extending slantingly from the cable tie CORRECT LTD is not a flexible harness. Avoid tight bends and kinks which could short circuit the LTD. Loops must hace a minimum radii of 4 inches (100 mm) NOT ALLOWED CORRECT Cable tie tighten in excess on the LTD. Tighten cable tie on LTD by hand only. Tighten just enough to prevent LTD from slipping from once side to the other inside the cable tie loop Proper tightening of the cable tie on the LTD Writer: FL IS-19908E Page 26 / 26 LABOR REFERENCE TABLE Table for reference only. Actual times will vary depending on vehicle condition. Operation Approximate labor (hours) Step 1 BOSCH ALTERNATORS REMOVAL, RIGHT HAND SIDE 1h Step 2 INSTALLING THE RIGHT HAND ALTERNATOR. (includes wiring) 2h Step 3 FUNCTIONAL TESTING 0.5h Total 3.5 hours PARTS / WASTE DISPOSAL Discard waste according to applicable environmental regulations (Municipal/State[Prov.]/ Federal) Writer: FL