A911707 2038136-
Service Bulletin Details
Public Details for: A911707 2038136-
This bulletin contains coding information to correct the "talk button is not available/not used."
- 2019 - 2018 - 2017 - 2016 - 2015 - 2014 - 2013 - 2012 - 2011 - 2010 -
Models from 2019
2019 AUDI A3 |
2019 AUDI A3 CABRIOLET |
Models from 2018
2018 AUDI A3 |
2018 AUDI A3 CABRIOLET |
2018 AUDI A5 CABRIOLET |
Models from 2017
2017 AUDI A3 |
2017 AUDI A3 CABRIOLET |
2017 AUDI A5 CABRIOLET |
Models from 2016
2016 AUDI A3 |
2016 AUDI A3 CABRIOLET |
2016 AUDI A5 CABRIOLET |
Models from 2015
2015 AUDI A3 |
2015 AUDI A3 CABRIOLET |
2015 AUDI A5 CABRIOLET |
Models from 2014
2014 AUDI A5 CABRIOLET |
Models from 2013
2013 AUDI A5 CABRIOLET |
Models from 2012
2012 AUDI A5 CABRIOLET |
Models from 2011
2011 AUDI A5 CABRIOLET |
Models from 2010
2010 AUDI A5 CABRIOLET |
91 Voice recognition is not available or not enabled 91 17 07 2038136/2 February 10, 2017. Supersedes Technical Service Bulletin Group 91 number 14-60 dated September 9, 2014 for reasons listed below. Model(s) Year VIN Range Vehicle-Specific Equipment A3 cabriolet 2015 - 2019 All MIB MMI A5 cabriolet 2010 - 2017 All MMI3G or 3G+ Condition REVISION HISTORY Revision Date Purpose 2 - Revised header data (Added model years) Revised Technical Background (Added note about TT3 and R8) Revised Service (Added step 9 information) 1 09/09/2014 Initial publication One of the following conditions is present: The message “Talk button for speech dialog system not used” appears in the DIS for A3 cabriolet vehicles (Figure 1). The message “Not available” appears in the DIS for A5 cabriolet vehicles (Figure 2). Page 1 of 7 © 2017 Audi of America, Inc. All rights reserved. Information contained in this document is based on the latest information available at the time of printing and is subject to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites, without the prior expressed written permission of the publisher. Figure 1. Message for A3 cabriolet. Figure 2. Message for A5 cabriolet. Technical Background By design, the voice recognition (VR) system (also known as the speech dialog system (SDS)) is not enabled by the factory for A3 cabriolet and A5 cabriolet vehicles due to potential performance issues. R8 Spyder and 3 rd Generation TT Roadster are not affected because these vehicles use seatbelt microphones to improve VR/SDS performance. Production Solution Not applicable. Page 2 of 7 © 2017 Audi of America, Inc. All rights reserved. Information contained in this document is based on the latest information available at the time of printing and is subject to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites, without the prior expressed written permission of the publisher. Service If the customer requests to have the VR feature enabled, it can be done through a change to the coding of the information control unit 1, J794 (address word 005F). The labor to perform this change is not covered by warranty. Because the coding of the MMI main unit is automatically checked with SVM, any subsequent SVM communication could potentially undo this manual coding change. This information should be communicated to the customer so that he or she understands that this change may be unintentionally undone at the next service visit. For this reason, it is good practice to document this and any other modifications in the dealership customer database for future reference. Coding change for A5 cabriolet vehicles with MMI3G/MMI3G+: Byte 16 of the information control unit 1, J794 (address word 005F) long coding controls the activation of the VR/SDS system. Note that this is byte 16 when counting in decimal, i.e., 1, 2, 3,...9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16. Some aftermarket diagnostic tools number the coding bytes using HEX, i.e., 1, 2, 3,…9, A, B, C, D, E, F, 10, 11. Note: Aftermarket scan tools may follow different labeling nomenclature for the bit information and should not be used for this task. Incorrect changes can lead to undesirable or failed operation. Coding change A3 cabriolet (MY2015-2016) with MIB1 High & (MY2017) with MIB2 High: Byte 24 of the information control unit 1, J794 (address word 005F) long coding controls the activation of the VR/SDS system. Additionally you can use the free text search in ODIS to search for “Speech” or “SDS” and select “SDS activated” within the coding function. 1. Start diagnosis with ODIS. Uncheck “Guided Fault Finding” to speed up the process, or use OBD (self-diagnosis) from the ODIS start screen. The instructions in this TSB will be from GFF. 2. Right-click 5F*. Choose “Identify Control Module”. Next, right-click 5F again and choose “Select version”. Then, right-click 5F again and choose “Control module OBD”, then select “Code” (Figure 3). *For tablet VAS testers, long-press the screen for the additional control module options. Figure 3. ODIS Options for 5F. Page 3 of 7 © 2017 Audi of America, Inc. All rights reserved. Information contained in this document is based on the latest information available at the time of printing and is subject to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites, without the prior expressed written permission of the publisher. 3. For MMI3G/MMI3G+: Scroll down to byte 16 and select it. For MIB High: Scroll down to byte 24 (which should be the last option) and select it. 4. At the bottom of the screen, choose “Binary Coding”. The Binary coding input window will appear (Figure 4). Figure 4. ODIS binary input for coding with indicated bit positions. 5. For MMI3G/MMI3G+: Change bit 0 from “1” to “0”. Bit position 0 is indicated in Figure 4. For MIB High: Change bit 1 from “0” to “1”. Bit position 1 is indicated in Figure 4. Note: When counting positions with binary, start on the far right and count toward the left. The first bit position is called “bit 0” and the second position from the right is “bit 1” (Figure 5). Do not alter any other bit positions, as doing so can affect Wi-Fi, navigation, and other features. If other bits are accidentally changed and the original coding is not known, run an SVM check module configuration or spec/actual to reset the coding to factory values, then begin at step 2 again. Page 4 of 7 © 2017 Audi of America, Inc. All rights reserved. Information contained in this document is based on the latest information available at the time of printing and is subject to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites, without the prior expressed written permission of the publisher. Figure 5. Bit 1 (highlighted) shows a value of 1. 6. Hit “Apply” in the pop-up window, then hit “Apply” at the bottom of the main window. 7. Perform a three-finger reset of the main unit using the MMI control panel (Figure 6, Figure 7, Figure 8, and Figure 9). Figure 6. Three-finger reset for MIB1. Figure 7. Three-finger reset for MIB2. Page 5 of 7 © 2017 Audi of America, Inc. All rights reserved. Information contained in this document is based on the latest information available at the time of printing and is subject to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites, without the prior expressed written permission of the publisher. Figure 8. Three-finger reset for MMI3G+. Figure 9. Three-finger reset for MMI3G. Page 6 of 7 © 2017 Audi of America, Inc. All rights reserved. Information contained in this document is based on the latest information available at the time of printing and is subject to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites, without the prior expressed written permission of the publisher. 8. Test the system to verify all functionality. If the VR/SDS system does not fully function, or if it is in a different language, go to Menu >> Setup MMI >> Language (Figure 8) and change the language to any language other than English (either Spanish or French). Perform a threefinger reset, then set the language back to English and test the system again. Figure 8. System language setting. 9. Explain to the customer the system limitations and why the feature was disabled by the factory. Any future customer complaints relating to the VR/SDS system should not be covered under warranty. Warranty This TSB is informational only and not applicable to any Audi Warranty. Additional Information All parts and service references provided in this TSB (2038136) are subject to change and/or removal. Always check with your Parts Department and service manuals for the latest information. ©2017 Audi of America, Inc. All rights reserved. Information contained in this document is based on the latest information available at the time of printing and is subject to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites without the prior expressed written permission of the publisher. Page 7 of 7 © 2017 Audi of America, Inc. All rights reserved. Information contained in this document is based on the latest information available at the time of printing and is subject to the copyright and other intellectual property rights of Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites, without the prior expressed written permission of the publisher.