2007 Kia RondoKia Rondo 2007

Vehicle Details: Recalls, Fuel Economy, Emissions, Crash Tests, Investigations, Consumer Complaints, Service Bulletins

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Below you will find all available information on the 2007 Kia Rondo, manufacturered by Hyundai-kia America Technical Center Inc (hatci).
The vehicle is described as a Front-Wheel Drive Midsize Station Wagons Station Wagon (excluding van and truck based).

ManufacturerKnown WMI(s)Fuel Type
KiaKND KND KNA Regular
City MPGHighway MPGCO2 emissions
18 - 19 MPG25 - 26 MPG403.95 - 444.35 g/mile
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Frequently Asked Questions
  • What is the MPG of a 2007 Kia Rondo?
     - The 2007 Kia Rondo has an EPA estimated city efficiency of 18 - 19 MPG and an estimated highway efficiency of 25 - 26 MPG.
  • What is the fuse box diagram for the 2007 Kia Rondo?
     - Fuse box diagrams for the 2007 Kia Rondo can be found here
  • What is the annual fuel cost for the 2007 Kia Rondo?
     - EPA estimated annual fuel cost for the 2007 Kia Rondo is $2450.
  • Where is the 2007 Kia Rondo produced?
     - The 2007 Kia Rondo is produced in Superior Township Mi, United States (usa).
  • Are there recalls for the 2007 Kia Rondo?
     - There are 7 recall(s) for the 2007 Kia Rondo, additional information is below.
  • How much does the 2007 Kia Rondo weigh?
     - The 2007 Kia Rondo is listed to weigh 1751 lbs.
Available Engine & Drive Classes
  • 2.4L 4 cylinder 4-speed automatic
  • 2.7L 6 cylinder 5-speed automatic
NHTSA Mandated Recalls
  • Recall 99899 [USA]: Failure to illuminate the stop lamps during braking or inability to disengage the cruise control could increase the risk of a crash. additionally, when the ignition is in the 'on' position, the transmission shifter may be able to be moved out of park without first applying the brake. this may lead to unintentional movement of the car which may increase the risk of a crash.

  • Recall 90948 [USA]: If the clock spring develops high resistance, in the event of a crash, the drivers air bag will not deploy and will not be able to properly protect the driver, increasing the risk of injuries.

  • Recall 87316 [USA]: Any of these malfunctions, alone or in combination, may lead to a crash.

  • Recall 2013098 [Canada]: Electrical

  • Recall 2012014 [Canada]: Airbag

  • Recall 2009140 [Canada]: Electrical

  • Recall 2008342 [Canada]: Fuel supply

To ensure accuracy and for your safety, it is recommended to do a free VIN recall check here or here [USA] - UK - Canada.

NHTSA Submitted Mechanical & Emissions Details
  • Automatic 4-spd Front-Wheel Drive Rondo

    Description Data
    Engine cylinders4
    Engine displacement in liters2.4
    TransmissionAutomatic 4-spd
    You save/spend over 5 years compared to an average car ($). savings are positive; a greater amount spent yields a negative number. for dual fuel vehicles, this is the cost savings for gasoline-2500
    Transmission descriptor; for information see the fueleconomy.gov details2MODE CLKUP
    Description Data
    Annual petroleum consumption in barrels for fuel type 113.5232
    City mpg for fuel type 1,19
    Combined mpg for fuel type 1,22
    Engine cylinders4
    Engine displacement in liters2.4
    Drive axle typeFront-Wheel Drive
    Annual fuel cost for fuel type 1 ($)2450
    Fuel type with fuel type 1 and fuel type 2 (if applicable)Regular
    Fuel type 1. for single fuel vehicles, this will be the only fuel. for dual fuel vehicles, this will be the conventional fuel.Regular Gasoline
    Highway mpg for fuel type 1,26
    Vehicle record id23885
    4 door luggage volume (cubic feet)35
    Model name (carline)Rondo
    Has my mpg data; see yourmpgvehicle and yourmpgdrivervehicleY
    If true, this vehicle operates on a blend of gasoline and electricity in charge depleting modefalse
    4-door passenger volume (cubic feet)108
    TransmissionAutomatic 4-spd
    Unadjusted city mpg for fuel type 123.8
    Unadjusted highway mpg for fuel type 136.7
    EPA vehicle size classMidsize Station Wagons
    You save/spend over 5 years compared to an average car ($). savings are positive; a greater amount spent yields a negative number. for dual fuel vehicles, this is the cost savings for gasoline-2500
    Transmission descriptor; for information see the fueleconomy.gov details2MODE CLKUP
    Date the vehicle record was created (iso 8601 format)Tue Jan 01 00:00:00 EST 2013
    Date the vehicle record was last modified (iso 8601 format)Tue Jan 01 00:00:00 EST 2013
  • Automatic 5-spd Front-Wheel Drive Rondo

    Description Data
    Engine cylinders6
    Engine displacement in liters2.7
    TransmissionAutomatic 5-spd
    You save/spend over 5 years compared to an average car ($). savings are positive; a greater amount spent yields a negative number. for dual fuel vehicles, this is the cost savings for gasoline-3750
    Transmission descriptor; for information see the fueleconomy.gov details2MODE CLKUP
    Description Data
    Annual petroleum consumption in barrels for fuel type 114.8755
    City mpg for fuel type 1,18
    Combined mpg for fuel type 1,20
    Engine cylinders6
    Engine displacement in liters2.7
    Drive axle typeFront-Wheel Drive
    Annual fuel cost for fuel type 1 ($)2700
    Fuel type with fuel type 1 and fuel type 2 (if applicable)Regular
    Fuel type 1. for single fuel vehicles, this will be the only fuel. for dual fuel vehicles, this will be the conventional fuel.Regular Gasoline
    Highway mpg for fuel type 1,25
    Vehicle record id23886
    4 door luggage volume (cubic feet)35
    Model name (carline)Rondo
    Has my mpg data; see yourmpgvehicle and yourmpgdrivervehicleY
    If true, this vehicle operates on a blend of gasoline and electricity in charge depleting modefalse
    4-door passenger volume (cubic feet)108
    TransmissionAutomatic 5-spd
    Unadjusted city mpg for fuel type 122.2
    Unadjusted highway mpg for fuel type 135.0
    EPA vehicle size classMidsize Station Wagons
    You save/spend over 5 years compared to an average car ($). savings are positive; a greater amount spent yields a negative number. for dual fuel vehicles, this is the cost savings for gasoline-3750
    Transmission descriptor; for information see the fueleconomy.gov details2MODE CLKUP
    Date the vehicle record was created (iso 8601 format)Tue Jan 01 00:00:00 EST 2013
    Date the vehicle record was last modified (iso 8601 format)Tue Jan 01 00:00:00 EST 2013
NHTSA Submitted Crashtests
  • New Car Assessment Program Frontal Barrie: Vehicle Into Barrier

    There are 30 videos for NHTSA test number 5909

    There are 132 photos for NHTSA test number 5909

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  • Ncap Side Impact - 2007 Kia Rondo Lx 5-do: Impactor Into Vehicle

    There are 14 videos for NHTSA test number 5911

    There are 65 photos for NHTSA test number 5911

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Bulletins

Bulletins are notices put out by manufacturers in conjunction with the NHTSA to notify the public of manufacturing issues or changes.

  • TSB_BOD055_R1 - EXTERIOR LIGHTING: Technical service bulletin: information for headlamp condensation and moisture - this bulletin has been revised to include additional information. New/revised sections of this bulletin are indicated by a black bar in the margin area. This b
  • PS443 - EQUIPMENT: Tsb - use of aftermarket usb charging cables in usb/12v ports - this article provides information regarding the use of usb ports and 12v power outlets to connect/charge mobile phones. Customers may experience issues with their head units th
  • PS539 - ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING: Pitstop - engine component re-use guidelines - in general, parts and components removed during engine repairs should be considered serviceable, and should be thoroughly cleaned and transferred to the new engine.
  • TSB-GEN085R1 - EQUIPMENT:MECHANICAL: Tsb: mandatory replacement of locking/security hardware - by design, certain fasteners, which are designed to lock into place once fully attached, are utilized in various kia models and are strictly intended for ?One time use.? Some example
  • TSB-GEN085 - EQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE/MOBILITY: Tsb: mandatory replacement of locking/security hardware - by design, certain fasteners utilized in various kia models are strictly intended for ?One time use?. Though not limited to the following, some examples are: axle shaft nuts with sta
  • TSBTRA046 - POWER TRAIN: Tsb: automatic transmission fluid application guide - this bulletin provides information relating to the correct automatic transmission fluids that are required for each kia model. Refer to the shop manual on kgis for the specific kia model
  • TSBBOD095 - EQUIPMENT: Tsb: windshield washer pump inlet filter replacement - this bulletin provides information relating to possible foreign debris accumulation on the windshield washer pump inlet filter. Over time, some kia vehicles may exhibit a limited appli
  • QASC122 - EQUIPMENT: Questions and answers for voluntary service campaign sc122 ? Underbody ? Additional anti-corrosion treatment
  • OWNERSC122RONDO - EQUIPMENT: Owner notification letter (sc122) - dear kia rondo owner: kia motors america, inc. Is conducting a voluntary service campaign to add additional anti-corrosion material to the underbody of all 2007-2010 kia rondo vehicles that were originall
  • DEALERPSMSC122 - EQUIPMENT: Dealer service manager memo (sc122) - kia motors america, inc. Is conducting a voluntary service campaign as a preventative measure to add additional anti-corrosion material to the underbody of all 2006-2011 my rio, 2004-2009 my spectra, 20
  • DEALERPSC122 - EQUIPMENT: Dealer principal memo (sc122) - kia motors america, inc. Will be conducting a voluntary service campaign, as a preventative measure, to add additional anti-corrosion material to the underbody of all 2006-2011 my rio, 2004-2009 my spectra, 2
  • TSBSC122 - EQUIPMENT: "tsb: voluntary service campaign - application of additional anti-corrosion material (sc122) - to improve customer satisfaction, kia is launching this bulletin to apply additional anticorrosion protection to various vehicle underbody comp
  • SC-122 - STRUCTURE:FRAME AND MEMBERS:UNDERBODY SHIELDS: Kia: an additional application of anti-corrosion protection will be applied on some vehicles underbody components to help prevent corrosion. Model 2004-09 spectra, 2006-10 optima, 2006-11 rio 2007-10 rondo and 2010-13 soul. *pe
  • VSC-SC-093 - STRUCTURE:FRAME AND MEMBERS: Kia: information regarding a procedure for additional protection against anticorrosion to the rear cross member for some vehicles. *pe
  • TSB-061 REV 1 - POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:CONTROL MODULE (TCM/PCM/TECM): Kia: provides information related to the ecm software upgrade of some vehicles with 3.8l and 2.7l engines which may experience a malfunction indicator lamp illuminated with the pcm (powertrain control module) system related dtc(s). *pe
  • TSB-044 - ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE: Kia: ecm upgrade with tp sensor replacement-mil on with dtc P2135/P0638. Information related to ecm software and tp sensor upgrade on some vehicles with 2.7l engines which may experience a malfunction indicator lamp (mil) illuminated with
  • KT-2009042201 - ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:SOFTWARE: Kia: on some vehicles with 2.7l engines, the ecm software and tp sensor upgrade may experience a malfunction indicator lamp (mil) illuminated with the electronic throttle control (etc) system related dtc P2135 or P0638 or P2A00 or P2A03.
  • TSB-022 - EQUIPMENT:OTHER:LABELS: Kia: load carrying capacity label requirements and instructions to comply with fmvss 110. Providing information for the new requirements related to load carrying capacity (lcc) when certain accessories are added to a completed vehicle pri0
  • KT-2008082201 - PARKING BRAKE:INDICATOR LIGHT: Kia: all models. Article provides information relating to the improved durability of bulb life for rear combination bulb; rear stop lamp/tail lamp bulb utilized on multiple kia models. *pe
  • 071 - AIR BAGS:FRONTAL:SENSOR/CONTROL MODULE: Supplemental restraint system curtain airbag module inspection / replacement. *kb
  • 818320001 - AIR BAGS: Supplemental restraint system curtain airbag module inspection/replacement. *kb
  • 069 - SERVICE BRAKES, AIR:ANTILOCK:WHEEL SPEED SENSOR: Front wheel speed sensor silicone varnish application treatment and replacement. *kb
Keyfob Information

The following is a list of any known keyfobs for the Kia Rondo 2007 as well as their FCC IDs if available

  • OR-KIA-SR04: 2007-2010 Kia Sorento Rondo / 4-Button Keyless Entry Remote / PN: 95430-3E511 / PLNHM-T011 (AFTERMARKET)
    FCC ID: PLNHM-T011 PLNHMT011
  • OR-KIA010: 2007-2010 Kia Sorento Rondo / 4-Button Keyless Entry Remote / PN: 95430-3E511 / PLNHM-T011 (OEM Refurb)
    FCC ID: PLNHM-T011 PLNHMT011
Known Recall Investigations
  • Loss of motive power investigation # DP22003

    The office of defects investigation (odi) has received a petition on july 13, 2022, requesting a defect investigation into an alleged defect of the "oil drain pan assemblies" on the following 83 models/model year vehicles stated by the petitioner: 2006-2019 hyundai sonata, 2013-2018 hyundai santa fe sport, 2010-2012 and 2019-2020 hyundai santa fe, 2010-2015 and 2018-2019 hyundai tucson, 2011-2021 kia sportage 2005-2020 kia optima, 2011-2020 kia sorento, 2010-2013 kia forte, 2010-2013,kia forte coup, and 2007-2010 kia rondo vehicles equipped with the 1.6l t-gdi gamma, 2.4l theta ii gdi, 2.4l in-line gdi theta ii, kappa, and 3.8l v-shaped gdi lambda-ii engines. The petition also cites additional hyundai/kia vehicles that use similar drain pan assemblies as the above-mentioned vehicles as having drain pan assembly failures. The petitioner provided subject and peer vehicles information related to alleged engine failures. The petition itself can be reviewed at nhtsa.Gov under odi number 11481745.According to the petition, the hyundai/kia vehicle owners have made allegations of oil leakage failures occurring at highway speeds, without malfunction, indicator lights, or the leakage associated with under-tightening an oil drain plug, or a plug or pan with damaged thread. The alleged defects are causing engines to seize and loss of motive power. A defect petition has been opened to evaluate the issue and determine whether to grant or deny the petition. The petitioner identified a number of complaints received by nhtsa alleging complete engine failure from a variety of models stated above along with other models. The odi complaints cited in the petition can be reviewed at nhtsa.Gov under the following odi numbers: 11481745, 11433038, 11366918, 11431200, 11320689, 11245086, 11196311, 11114946, 11114946, 11097819.

Vehicle Documentation
[pdf] User Manual Owner's Manual
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Most Recent Consumer Complaints and Accidents
CrashFireTowedInjuredDeathsFailure
Date
NoNoN NoneNone20210603

What component or system failed or malfunctioned, and is it available for inspection upon request? 2.4l theta engine has developed a knocking sound at 155,600 miles. Oil consumption is excessive. Currently vehicle has pennzoil platinum high mileage 5w20 oil. It has been approximately 5600 miles since last oil and filter change, and vehicle was 2 qts low. Knocking sound is consistent with what others have reported with the later 2.4l theta ii engine. Symptom is consistent with spun rod bearing. It is currently available for inspection, pending me selling the car. How was your safety or the safety of others put at risk? Car is a serious risk of stalling. Has previously stalled before. Has the problem been reproduced or confirmed by a dealer or independent service center? No. Selling dealership is under different ownership and has disavowed prior ownership. Has the vehicle or component been inspected by the manufacturer, police, insurance representatives or others? No. Were there any warning lamps, messages or other symptoms of the problem prior to the failure, and when did they first appear? None.

NoNoN NoneNone20210408

The a/c line draines onto the front subframe. Doing this i believe has caused it to rust over the years. Now it is not safe to drive for fear that the engine or front control will bring the car to a halt. It may cause a serious accident

NoNoN NoneNone20210407

The a/c line draines onto the front subframe. Doing this i believe has caused it to rust over the years. Now it is not safe to drive for fear that the engine or front control will bring the car to a halt. It may cause a serious accident

NoNoN NoneNone20191024

In the morning i was on my way to college and the sprinklers of my apartment complex where on as usual, which made puddles of water on the street. I went through one and i lost all steering power. The vehicle started to squick really loudly and all the warning lights came an in the dashboard and the a/c stop blowing cold air, i provided to turn the engine off and restarting it and then it was back to normal again. I started moving and went through another puddle and every thing i mentioned above happened again. Any time that the floor is wet i cannot use the vehicle because i loos total control of the steering.

NoNoN NoneNone20190805

Tl* the contact owns a 2007 kia rondo. While driving 10 mph in the rain and making a left turn, the brake pedal was difficult to depress and the steering wheel failed to turn left or right. Additionally, while making a right turn, the failure recurred. When the vehicle was turned off and restarted, it resumed normal operation; however, the traction control and ecm warning indicators were illuminated. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer and dealer were not contacted. The failure mileage was 94,000.

NoNoN NoneNone20181223

Tl* the contact owns a 2007 kia rondo. The contact stated that the cruise control was not working and the air bag indicator illuminated. The dealer and manufacturer were not contacted. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The failure mileage was 192,000.

NoNoY NoneNone20181003

Tl* the contact owns a 2007 kia rondo. The contact stated that the vehicle was slanted to the left when steering the vehicle. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic for an alignment and it was discovered that the entire subframe was rusted. The contact was advised not to drive the vehicle for safety reasons. The contact sent a picture of the damage to the manufacturer who advised her to tow the vehicle to jeffrey kia (30800 gratiot ave, roseville, mi 48066, (586) 460-7061). The dealer diagnosed that the subframe needed to be replaced along with other possible repairs after the subframe was removed. The manufacturer stated that there was an unknown recall for the 2015 models regarding the rust. The manufacturer stated that they would not cover the repair costs and would tow the vehicle back to the independent mechanic to perform the repairs. The failure mileage was 93,000.

NoFireN NoneNone20180824

My engine caught on fire ...The fire was started near or around the fuel rail/ or injectors. I researched kia recalls and other years and other models of kia's were part of a similar risk. I feel that this was a huge safety risk....Luckily my car engine caught fire very close to my home, and i was able to pull in my driveway and call the fire dept. I was injured in this event....But the burn was minor. I am most concerned with kia acknowledging the huge safety risk....And the loss that i and others could experience with this safety issue. My vehicle was in great shape before this engine fire.

NoNoN NoneNone20180817

Check engine light keeps coming on code number P2A00

Read and Submit Vehicle Complaints -- 54+ complaints filed
Common OBD-II Error Codes
  • P2135 [2] Throttle/Pedal Pos Sensor/Switch A / B Voltage Correlation
  • P0638 [2] Throttle Actuator Control Range/Performance (Bank 1)
  • P2A03 [1] O2 Sensor Circuit Range/Performance Bank 2 Sensor 1
  • P2A00 [2] O2 Sensor Circuit Range/Performance Bank 1 Sensor 1
Latest VINs Decoded for this Manufacturer
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